bmw n20 131501

F10 The last oil change was two years ago but only 2200 miles were driven. Im thinking the dealership is just not interested in fixing it. What could be the problem? Yes took off the valve cover 3 times so far. The improved DME software was introduced I dont want to sell the car because nobody is going to give me what I bought it for. Ive search, alot of people have it problem but no solution.It dont like bmw :). It possible a software issue,,,we have seen that before. The oil and filter have always been genuine BMW. Hi, I have N20 with rough idle. The extended warranty runs out in December. Coasting to a stop the engine suddenly died and would not restart. Could this be the timing chain? Hi, So I drive a 2011 335i N55 and yesterday I was driving home and on the way i was trying to pass a car, hit the gas and as soon as i started to pick up, a malfunction light came on and immediately went into LIMP mode. https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158 1/6/2014 Opened oil pan and checked pick up screen. Thanks, The charge pressure fault is probably due to the the vanos fault,,,,it looks like you replaced all the general stuff already and you are sure the timing is correct,,,,,you said the engine had low water damage what does that mean,,,is it possible the exhaust camshaft is binding,,,,you might want to check the exhaust camshaft journal caps. The fault returns when its hot outside and comes back even faster when I turn on the air conditioning. Four months later I got a drive train malfunction that turned on then went away after a day. Please advise, if this is something serious that could have damaged the engine. 120308 charge air pressure 130E20 Jake 6,848 satisfied customers I replaced my timing chain and oil chain on my 2012 BMW carlosbosch satisfied customers Daniel Next day scanned and found codes 120208 (charging pressure control, plausibility pressure too high) and 120408 (charging pressure control, deactivation: pressure build-up blocked. Intake Camshaft: Installation faulty. Hi Chip.. Did you ever come across a step by step procedure in doing this? During highway driving the car drives fine. It would get to 17% and quit. Yesterday when i was driving the car normally on the hwy the drivetrain malfunction popped up and car went into a reduced power mode. Or will my timing chain, etc. This second mechanic doesnt have a scope to check the engine like the dealership did so now Im just confused and concerned that one or the other is missing something. The N20 is a 2.0L inline-4 single turbo engine that replaced the naturally aspirated 3.0L N52/N53. If BMWNA does not fix this N20/N26 TC issue, a chunk of remaining faithfuls will deflect to other brands. 2D5A VANOS, intake, control fault, camshaft jammed Sorry for the confusion, I understand you have the N20 engine,,,,what Im saying on the N20 engine the vans unit failing is not a common problem like the N51,,,,,on the N20 engine there are no replacement bolts for the vanos unit not like the N51. 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December 2013 Common Symptoms Increase in fuel consumption Poor engine performance Possible misfire on start-up Cold start issues Possible Causes There are several possible causes for this code, such as: Damaged camshaft position sensor Defective crankshaft position sensor I couldnt tell based on reading the comments and such, should I call up my BMW dealer ASAP to get this fixed? I bought a BMW F20 118i with N13 1.6 engine. The ticking noise is normal on all N20 engine during cold start and then it get quieter when it warms up,,,what Im more worried about if the car has a whining noise and also trying to get the timing chain and rails replaced under BMW extended warranty. Most auto repairs shops charge between $75 and $150 per hour. I have done my timing chain after finish car starts up runs but would not idle until cel come on. BMW X3 and X4 Forums | F25 (2011 - 2017) | F26 (2014 - 2017), Second Generation BMW X3 (F25) General Forum, https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/fshaft/HtiBPV3K, https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2053485-8362.pdf. It is a total mystery (to me) as to why it works now. If it is not on the list then it is not covered under that bulletin,,,but BMW does have some other programs,,,you need to go to the dealer and have your key remote reader performed and it will say if you are covered for any timing chain defects. It gave the code 2D61 VANOS Outlet control, position not reached. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. And yes the crank wouldnt rotate after being inserted. she said light came on oil pressure error stop immidiatly F31 As there is a known TSB and the solenoid is VVT. Dont they use the same spec N20 engine just with a slight bump in power for the 28i version? with the following integration levels: So temperatures make difference. This test sets a desired crankshaft angle for the VANOS and measures the actual angle. The auto repair labor rates vary by location, your vehicle's make and model, and even your engine type. The oil was black though. I have a 2015 x1 with an April 2015 manufacture date. The cost of diagnosing the P052B BMW code is 1.0 hour of labor. The year of 2012 was a year of impending upgrades in . They also included a video from the technician. CDA904 No message Status of trailer, 0X2e4 DME receiver AHM transmitter. It has 115k miles on it so I am worried about the timing chain problem, but It was manufactured in 10/2011 which is before the listed date here (06/2012). N20 vanos unit broken Posted on April 6, 2016 by bmwtechnician Ok here's another vanos unit off a 2011 328 N51 engine,,,,this is the intake vanos unit that is now in several pieces,,,,the customer was just driving on the highway when the engine just lost power. Ok,,,,no the sprocket does not have to be in a special position,,,,you have to lock down both camshaft with special tool,,,engine on TDC,,,,you have to tighten the chain tensioner and then you can tighten both vanos unit,,,you should be able to hand turn over the engine to TDC and lock down the camshafts again with the tool and you should be fine after that. They unlock only when oil pressure is applied. 61 00 720 Refer to KSD2 Programming / encoding control unit(s) To my shame, I am not sure how to post video in your blog. Glossary of Emission Coverage attachment for more information. Thats important to know for later. The exhaust cam had the following desired/actual degrees: 0.6/-9, 20/17, 11/9, 20/17. Should I proactively replace the timing chain tensioner, part number 11318685091 (replaces part number 11317567680)? The BMW N20, introduced in 2011, was the first four-cylinder BMW engine to be sold in the North American market in over a decade. CAUSE SI B12 15 13 Im going to trade. Hi,,,yes your car is not on the list but that doesnt mean that it still has this problem,,,and since your car is 4 wheel drive the chain is not being used more it is the same on both 4 wheel drive and rear wheel drive,,,,now if you want to keep the vehicle it is a good idea to replace the timing chain and rails and oil pump chain for safety reasons. Not a good sign, had the same thing happen on 2013 X3. The I-level is newer than the I-level specified in SI B12 15 13. It looks like the car is on this recall list. You think BMWNA would cover timing chain here if brought in for inspection? So I was just under by kilometers and by time (Delivery was Aug 2012). Hello BMW technician, I know there is a lawsuit going on with N20 timing chain in NJ District Court These are all pretty standard specs for most modern BMW engines. Problem is, mine arent locked. SITUATION I hate to take it to the junk yard. No I dont think it is covered,,,and what lifetime of the vehicle are you talking about. Please advice me how can I go about with the local dealer? Dealer wants almost 300 euro to check the timing chain. I bought a used 2012 528i with 109k miles about 4 months ago. The problem could be caused by the fuel destroying the plastic guide. You could replace the tensioner if you like,,,you should be ok since your car was probably built in 2015.,,,,you could ask your local dealership on what they think about your car and the timing chain issue. Question,,,what is a DME clone,,,,is it a used DME?,,,,or a aftermarket replacement DME. I guess I can continue to enjoy the car and see what happens or sell it. Fingers crossed!! with the following integration levels: Thank you again. Also camshaft sensors also does not give any data to DME. Thanks! Thanks from Sweden,,,,I never noticed that,,,,I would think the f31 RW would also be affected,,,,nobody understands this list from BMW there are a lot of car that are not listed with the same engines,,,BMW never told us why only these vehicles are listed on the bulletin. Location: Chicago. Covered under the terms of the BMW New Car/SAV Limited Warranty or the BMW Certified Pre- The old oil filter was stuck onto the basket. 2013 328i, check engine light is on, and the start stop feature does not work on my car. Reduced power" warning, 745i 2002 - Engine Malfunction - reduced power, If this is your first visit, be sure to The cam is at -18 degrees and not changing. Connecting rods are 144.35 mm long. Yes that crack in the timing chain guide should be enough to replace the timing chain and guide rails,,,,the way we decide if the car is covered is by whine noise,rattle noise,broken pieces of timing chain guide,,,how before we get the extended warranty that is hard to say,,,it all depends on the legal side of the lawsuit Im sorry to say. E84 and E89: https://youtu.be/FQ92t236Utg. Looked at my timing chain and there seems to be some play in the chain. What is your opinion about the above? After several engine stop/start cycles there were still no faults. My question is, when I remove the central valve, will the timing chain or sprockets will slip their position? Look into loose connectors. 120408: Boost pressure control, cut off pressure rise blocked. I have changed timing chain on 2013 BMW 328i xdrive this is the codes Im getting 131501 120408 131908 . If I reach my finger in through oil filler cap with the engine off and cold, is it normal for there to be some slack in the timing chain on an N20? The crank pin to hold at TDC goes through the tiny hole pointing to the rear of the car by the catalytic converter, the only thing this would be able to hold onto would be the flex plate/flywheel. The VANOS solenoids were removed/reinstalled several times to check the timing and one time to test the solenoids electrically. If governor works properly engine cant 9600 rpm. Or turbo charger, Do you guys fix the issue ?! Bringing the BMW community together. Other engines may have this same scenario, but it's not typical. Thanks for your time. Can the N20 Vanos valve be replaced through the actuator hole without removing the valve cover and locking the cams? Owned Program. Suddenly the half yellow engine light came on and was telling me that reduced engine power bla bla. troubleshooting with the applicable test plan for the fault(s) stored. New chain and guides and so far no problems. I own a 2015 X1 with a manufacture date of April 2014. Im wondering do I need to have the 7/70 warranty to get BMW covered on this timing chain issue? three fault codes are Its hard to say without performing some test with a diagnostic equipment. One other odd problem during this time was the oil level test did not work. By any chance do you know how long will the dealerships receive this extended warranty info after the case settles? hello i have a 2013 bmw x3 from a family friend with n20 Seems like the locking pins inside the units are jammed , I know thats what BMW wants you to do for repairs,,,,but we never use the vanos lock out default,,,,we just lock out the flywheel,lock out both camshafts and sensor wheels on the vanos unit,,,,we tighten the chain tensioner then torque down both vanos units,,,we then turn the motor over by hand and pin the motor and vanos again to make sure everything is at TDC again.,,,I hope this helps. 61 00 710 Refer to KSD2 Programming / encoding control unit(s) What me be causing this? Ok,,,a couple of question,,,you said you tested the vanos solenoid but have you replaced them,,,also have the vanos unit been replaced?,,,,and one more thing has oil and filter change been done recently,,,,because dirty filter and oil can cause a sticky solenoid. I bought an x3 28ix build on 07/2015, model 2016 with 124000km. within the BMW Certified Pre-Owned Limited Warranty and this coverage extends beyond the Any thoughts!!! Thanks! This time the desired angle was not a constant as in the previous tests. 112,000 km / 7 years. I have a 2013 N20 engine in my X3 and want to remove the actuators to either clean or replace. The tensioner sometime start to malfunctioning due to lack of motor oil (it is actioned by the oil pressure). Cleaned spark plugs and as the mileage was 65000 so I changed the timing chain with a TOOL also. or Or maybe the fuel that would be implicated! Note that ISTA/P will automatically reprogram and code all programmable control modules that do I've done exactly the same thing and caused this issue by replacing the timing chain tensioner. Kostenlose Lieferung fr viele Artikel! i am getting the following error codes on my 2013 BMW X3 (107k miles): Thank you for your time and expertise. Do I have to buy the extended warranty to get the timing chain replaced by BMW or the 7/70 warranty is for all bmw? Changed the oil filter and OIL. BMW Fault Code Lookup Enter a BMW fault code (P or hex), complete the Captcha, and click "Search" P-Codes will start with a P and are usually generated by generic scanners. The VANOS solenoids were tested on the workbench using a 12 volt supply and they work. I got this issue and luckily BMW covered it 100%. It idles fine and sounds much better than before. But the list post on this forum shows E84 X1 xDrive28i with N20 is a recall! Yes go to the dealership and tell them about the issue and the bulletin. Please advice. 01-18-2020, 01:07 PM #2 mandd Autobahn East Join Date I went to the shop today to see what codes it was and i got a code: P13C0. Unfortunately for me, I was not informed about an extended free warrantee on the chain and guides, BMW kept it quiet. (not including CAS) I just purchased a 2016 228i xDrive Cabriolet (manufactured in Germany) with 46k kilometers for my wife. He believes that its not enough oil pressure in the tensioner therefore is not tight as it should be. Dash lights up with transmission gear exclamation point and lift ramp both in yellow. 131501 vanos inlet cold start not controllable and 120408 boost pressure control cut off pressure rise blocked 2011 x3. Maybe a stupid question but I noticed the f31 328i xdrive is mentioned on the form but not the rw ? The values changed. Yes you can check the oil pressure,,,also when the mechanic performed the timing chain repairs the oil pan was off and hopefully he checked the oil pump screen for and debris and cleaned it out. If one of the applicable faults listed above is not stored in the DME fault memory then continue SHAME ON BMW!!!!! one of the plug had corroded pins due to leaking pigtail from that Dinan harness and i got the DME clone. This seems correct, but I'm looking to avoid removing the valve cover. Hi Im wondering do I need to have a 7/70 warranty to get BMW cover for this problem? bimmerfest.com is not in any way affiliated with Bayerische Motoren Werke AG. Just replaced timing chain and oil pump module on n20 13 528i xdrive. Now how I understand it is this is not a timing issue. Yes it should,,,,but sometimes some random faults might still be their, The service engine light has not cleared. The actual angle also varied as in the previous test but on average was nearly equal to the desired angle. WARRANTY INFORMATION I am thinking switching vanos solenoids and see result. 130104 VANOS, intake, control fault, camshaft jammed Risking my good fortune I had to run the VANOS function test again. Thank You very much for the reply !! Maybe the function test is different with cold start faults present. Hello! PROCEDURE It started during a hot day waiting at a traffic light. Its a bit like on the list, the block of 20i and 28i is quite close, so why one seems more impacted than the other (the higher torque?). Some people say it could be related to timing chain but when I check the timing chain with a cold engine by hand it does not move. Emissions Warranty coverage that applies. Got it replaced for half of the price in warranty, consider also the timing chain replace if needed. I would like the tackle the Vanos issue first and go from there. No turnover on start at all. Please note the displayed battery voltage reading in the repair order comments section. They look ok. Do you think it can be a ECU or software related issue? In US the N20/N26 timing chain extended limited warranty is 7 years/70000 miles, so what is extended coverage available in your country? They also got me up to speed on the known timing chain issues, extended 7yr/70,000 mile extended warranty and class action lawsuit stuff. How do you check the oil pressure? 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